Meeting Minutes /
President Dan Yoas called the meeting to order at 7 PM, April
14 1998. Total attendance was 14 people.
There were no corrections to March's minutes.
Our balance as of the meeting date is $430.11. During March,
our primary expense as usual was $13.75 to the Sun-Gazette
for a classified ad to be run for three days.
Advertising / Awareness / Public
Relations / Home Page:
- Gene questioned whether we should continue the newspaper
ad in light of the fact that it has drawn no attendees as
of late. The membership decided to continue advertising
for the time being, but we may shorten the ad to reduce
- Secretary Jim
Shaffer was instructed to announce meetings on the
wacc-chat mailing list and to send a program report and
announcement of forthcoming programs to Jan at the Sun-Gazette.
- No correspondence was received through the Club's web
page feedback form since the last meeting.
- Business cards have not been ordered yet.
Computer Show / Swap Meet:
- We received estimates of $275 and $300 for insurance
without food vendors.
- The likely location appears to be St. Mark's Church,
which can be rented for $50. It can hold 10 tables,
however, we won't be able to provide electricity for most
- The Bloomsburg hamfest charges $10 per table with
electricity. We may not be able to charge that much for
tables without electricity.
- We need to have a membership drive table.
- We decided to look into the possibility of having
refreshments provided by the church.
- The committee will draw up a list of tasks which need to
be completed for the next meeting.
- The committee still needs volunteers. We have four, but
would like to have at least six.
- The expenses involved won't leave much money for ads, so
we need to advertise via inexpensive methods such as
Recycling (finding charitable uses for old computers):
- Robbie, firstname.lastname@example.org,
reported that he has one `386 system up and running from
our stock of donated parts.
- He hasn't purchased any hard drives for the remaining
systems yet, and hasn't received a reply from the person
who e-mailed an offer of them.
- Kathy reported that someone will be donating another `386
- Jerry Baker told Kathy that we could obtain obsolete
systems from the federal government, but Dan pointed out
that they were 8 MHz PS/2 Model 60s, which don't even
have compatible cases.
Computer Networking / ISP News:
- There is a multi-search-engine system at http://www.dogpile.com.
- Some members again expressed surprise at Jim's obsession
with high-speed access methods such as ISDN and ADSL, and
wondered what he might be doing that required such
things. He explained that high-speed connections would be
useful for downloading such things as operating system
upgrades which now require an entire night and a clean
line, and that he was also tired of waiting for dial-up
connections to dial each time he wanted to look up
something, not to mention that it precludes use of the
telephone line for voice calls.
- (For those coming in late: Jim would like to see the
government provide both the mandate and the funding to
either offer nationwide ADSL in the near future or
dismantle the entire POTS system and replace it with
ISDN. He feels that this would be a more worthwhile
expenditure of his tax money than anything else they're
- It was also discussed, without resolution due to total
lack of data, whether the Nortel / British Telecom
wide-area carrier-current system would be viable in the
United States. (Jim has read that it wouldn't be, and is,
uncharacteristically, inclined to agree.)
- The club agreed to ask SkyCable for a demonstration of
DirectPC, possibly in October.
- We need suggestions for gifts for our guest speakers.
- Cellular One's program has been postponed until June.
Willis's program on basic computer upgrading will be
rescheduled, probably for August or September.
- Next Month's Program will
be something new for our club: Favorite
Web Site Show & Tell!
Bring the address of your favorite web site (or two) and
a sample printout to share with the Club. If you can't
attend, please e-mail your favorite URLs to email@example.com
so they can be included.
Beginner's Night / Q&A:
- A question was asked concerning the maximum serial port
speed with an 8450 UART, and it was agreed that it was
around 28.8kbps, but noted that most systems now contain
- Packet radio, a computer networking system for amateur
radio operators, was explained.
- An overview of RAM-related concepts such as access time,
level 1 and 2 cache, and EDO chips was given.
- The difference between RAM cache, disk cache, and web
page cache was explained.
- Shared libraries and virtual memory were explained.
- It was explained that a program which doesn't preserve
the user's choice of directories to save files in has
either not been configured or is simply a poorly-written
- The different types of system crashes were explained.
The meeting was adjourned at 8:32 PM.
||Favorite Web Site Show & Tell
-- everyone invited!
||Cellular One -- Internet
Access via Cellular Phone
||Summer Break at Benjies -- Social
Night, No Business Meeting
||Beginner's Night / Upgrading Your
Computer (tentative date)
||Voice Recognition (tentative)
||Election of Officers
The next meeting is
Tuesday, May 12, at 7 PM, in the Lycoming College Academic Center
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